#348: How To Reserve A Table For Five Podcast w/ Lindsay Luttrell
Lindsay Luttrell is a TV producer, currently on Food Network’s Guy’s Grocery Games + Tournament of Champions, and host of the Table 5 podcast where she is sitting down with Chefs and Restaurateurs getting to know them through their storytelling and exploring more than just their life in the kitchen.
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SPEAKERS
Law (48%), Speaker 3 (39%), Speaker 2 (6%), Matt (3%)
Law Smith
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sweat equity podcast and streaming show the number one comedy business business comedy podcast in the world. Some people call me cooler business podcast
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of the year.
Law Smith
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We got to give our people call me cool Eric rip Louie Anderson, who's in our intro,
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and I forgot Yeah, no
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Matt Fernandez
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bummer city, pragmatic entrepreneurial vice real Rado talk. That's what we're all about. Because we're 2020s best small medium enterprise business advisory podcasts. I'd say 2021 Best podcast streaming entertainment studio, eastern United States media, Vinod innovative works, and 20 Do we win 2022 2021
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Speaker 2
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Lux life winnable Excellence Award that just went live global global excellence. That was best small business podcast, and then corporate live wire was business podcast of the year.
Law Smith
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Well, cause piccolo it on the pile cause some pimples because we're Mr. Worldwide. What? Listen to us on iTunes, Apple podcast, Spotify. Samsung podcast. Yeah, that's a new one. We're on Google Play. Yeah, it's real. They're making me I swear to God. That it goes right on your Samsung phone nowadays. We have our guests my former roommate, TV show producer of guy's grocery games. And host of the table five podcast love connection. Now Luttrell negative she's got a boyfriend anyway, she mentioned that
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I already said it wasn't
Law Smith
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Can you hear me? Oh yeah, we got you.
Law Smith
2:50
And we're going with that. Perfect. That's how we started. Everybody has to dance. You already beat us to it.
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That's how I started everything. Law. Ready to switch the
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camera that fast for the dancing.
Law Smith
3:04
Oh, wait, let's give you a proper intro. Ready? Dance. Perfect. For those listening, it was fairly white chick dancing. Definitely think of like your cool aunt at a wedding. About four white claws in?
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Speaker 3
3:24
Uh huh. I think that's fair. I mean, I am a cool aunt to six kids. So I'll go with that.
Law Smith
3:30
Wow, really taking ownership
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Speaker 2
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of Yeah. Yeah, you're so brave.
3:35
Or they'll own it. I'll own it.
Law Smith
3:37
I've never heard it. Heard it put that way or you're an ad to six children.
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I am and they would tell you I'm the cool one.
Law Smith
3:46
Yeah, I believe it. Other than you go into Alabama, you know? You're as cool as can be.
3:53
Oh, you guys gonna do this? I have to be here for this.
Law Smith
3:55
Well, we were roommates kinda. I didn't live in the house. Technically. I lived in a two car garage that had air conditioning and carpeted floors. It was like they gave up halfway to make it in last week.
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Speaker 2
4:10
Yeah, it's an Alabama and last week, they said that's a thing. Of all
Law Smith
4:13
places, though. This isn't the gayest neighborhood in America. West Hollywood. Yes. A lot of cool gay jokes I got from the committee. Yes, they came over. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
4:25
The only room in the house with air conditioning. So you really were winning.
Law Smith
4:29
That's true. But I will say women are typically in my experience almost always cold.
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Speaker 2
4:36
Plus the the cars asleep around the cars,
Law Smith
4:39
no cars in the garage. It was strictly straight up. It had had carpeting I was. I was in between doing stand up tours. And I had nothing going on. No kidding. And I was like, Hey, what's that two car garage? It came over to party. Anybody used it up? Hey, my house now? Yeah, then I'll I live here now be security to know. Yeah, yeah, that's how I sold it. Wow. Yeah, I had to walk into the house bathroom. That was like the entrance into the kitchen to take a shower. But I was like, oh your shit, right? Yeah. You can't live anywhere in West Hollywood for under like a grand just for a room anywhere. So I was like, Yeah, whatever I paid 500 700 Something like that. That was a steal.
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Sounds great. Sounds amazing.
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Speaker 3
5:33
And we did it without the landlord's knowledge. So we just knocked off we just divided his rent by three and knocked off our own a little bit.
Law Smith
5:40
Boom. Yeah,
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you were the one getting scammed.
Law Smith
5:44
And then you had girls chat. You had another girl to chat with the fourth girl.
5:49
Guys, I'm having a margarita.
Law Smith
5:51
Well, you're on the job right now. Where are you? You're in Sonoma way to wrap.
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Speaker 3
5:56
Well, I just finished filming for two weeks it up in Sonoma in Santa Rosa, California. Windsor area and had been making my way down the coast. I always say I'm gonna take the drive slow next time and stop here and stop there and do this and do that. And and then I never do because I'm like, get me out of here. Because you're just like so over it at that point. But
Law Smith
6:18
what is it? What's the production schedule? Like? You're doing TV? Right? Yep. What Sam's doing? How is it harder with all the restrictions and everything is it taking
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Speaker 3
6:28
I was just saying the other day, my job has this whole new added layer of like clerical admin type duties, because everything is around COVID. I have eight chefs fly in a day to come on set to do a show. And so they're coming from all over the food. Not sound cost. It's like, yeah, you gotta have to be tested by a certain time. And then if the test isn't get back through FedEx or the results, don't make it to the lab. And then they have to, you know, the way to find a replacement. And then if we don't have a replacement that we have to decide the episode can only have three years. It's a whole cluster. Hmm. So the there's definitely an added layer of stress to producing a show
Law Smith
7:13
now, can you say what show you're producing? Or do you need to keep this or do you have? Are you his mum's the word on this right now? craft services
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Speaker 3
7:20
is the No I can say it. We're in like season 30 Something I produce guy's grocery games on Food Network.
Law Smith
7:28
Mm hmm. Yeah. And so for those not familiar with the premise, I guess you fly in chefs. I haven't seen it. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 3
7:38
kind of like I used to I used to cast the show before I was on the field side where I was like filming it. And it is, I would always say it's like supermarket sweet meats chopped, because we built out this warehouse to be a grocery store. I mean, it looks like a grocery store. If you walked in and didn't look up to see like all the cameras and lighting and things you would think you were in a grocery store. So they have they're given a challenge by guy for Yeti and they have to run through the grocery store collects their groceries they'll cook something in like 20 minutes and then present it like it'll be like give us your best burger but you have to use these can Chili's and so they have to go grab that thing of canned chilies and anything else they want to make a burger it can be a lamb burger, a chicken burger, a beef burger and then they all present it to the judges so
Law Smith
8:22
they have to be good at shopping to is that the deal? They got to be good at
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Speaker 3
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shopping at cooking at plating and at selling it to the judges.
Law Smith
8:31
Well that's chopped that's the chopped aspect but throw in this other wrinkle that I think is given me
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Speaker 2
8:38
I'm sweaty they race around in the in the shopping cart. Sweaters they all get the batteries first.
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Speaker 3
8:45
No and unfortunately it's not those big butterball like chickens either they know when you still watch
Law Smith
8:51
those. Yeah, yes fives your limit. You cannot get five you gotta go get the coffee. Ground beans why
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Speaker 2
8:57
hammers? Hands expensive weird stuff you don't think Right? Right? And
Law Smith
9:01
then I do are we getting it? Keep your eyes peeled on the inflatable PVR can or or man?
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Like a bonus? $1,000 Yeah, no, they're just
Law Smith
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we probably fucking smoke Superman. Oh, yeah. I mean, I watched an ungodly amount of that show. Yes, it was always on some in every obviously know our stuff. Well, everybody when you hear that beep Superman. I heard I tried to watch it. I was out. I was out like
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a Supermarket Sweep.
Law Smith
9:32
They tried to make it to cool. It needs to be corny. Yeah,
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Speaker 3
9:36
I was gonna say you should try and go on it. But if it's not cool, then don't
Law Smith
9:40
well, I'm not very cool by a lot of people's standards. So maybe I am the demo, but you know, we'll train
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for six months then we'll do it. Well,
Law Smith
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look who's gonna have all the contestants are they gonna beat my 40 time? Probably not. Right. And if you're no have wirey
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Yeah, get up on top of them show.
Law Smith
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Mm.
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got it figured out.
Law Smith
10:01
It's like a spider monkey. Yeah. I like it. Can you work your magic? Maybe? And won't wear matching sweaters they don't have anymore.
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Speaker 3
10:09
Yeah, let me see if I know someone over there. Get you guys a shot.
Law Smith
10:12
We're really just doing this interview just to see right. We're slow plan. Yeah.
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Like, oh, we can hang up now you've got me. Okay.
Law Smith
10:20
Yeah, this is the show we just, I, we have old friends as guests and then we try to see what we can get out of them. We've moved things off.
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Got it copy?
Law Smith
10:29
How is the life of a producer? Like what is it just is it chaos? You kind of work a big glut of months, and then you're off? What? How was? I don't know. I have a few producer friends. But it's all different depending on the show.
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Speaker 3
10:43
Yeah, well, it's all different. Yeah, all the time. And people are always like, so what are you doing? What side? And I'm like, um,
Law Smith
10:49
what are the sides? We don't even know that.
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Speaker 3
10:51
You know, there can be there's reality. There's Docu, there's film, there's television, there's scripted, there's non script, you know, so it's, I am typically, if I have what I call, like office hours, but I'm just in pre Pro, kind of prepping the show. And like going over stuff. I have like pretty nor I would say normal. I may have never had a nine to five. But first zoom meetings at 10. Last one could be six, between six and 7pm. But then sometime throughout the day, I'm not doing anything necessarily. With someone like watching me. I'm just like getting stuff done on my own time. And then filming those hours are insane. I mean, I went up there for two weeks. And I was nonstop and like I just didn't got there at 7am didn't leave until the day was over, which could be anywhere between 7pm and 9pm. But then I go home and like keep going.
Law Smith
11:42
Well, I feel like you're a person that thrives in that kind of situation on the filming days. No, I mean, we haven't talked to I don't know, at least 10 years, probably. I know. Wow. Yeah. But I feel like knowing what I do know about you. You're I think you're one of those people that can coordinate on the fly. Is that is that kind of playing to your strengths?
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Speaker 3
12:03
Yeah, you know, someone the other day was like you clearly thrive in chaos. And I was like, Oh, I don't know that. I love that. That is the like, I don't know that I love that that's a takeaway, or that I necessarily agree because I actually don't enjoy the chaos. It's the chaos of it that I actually wish was not a part of the job. So that's what's funny, but I guess I do because I hear I am
Law Smith
12:27
you may not enjoy it. But you might be good in that situation where a lot of people freak out. Yeah, yeah. Can
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Speaker 2
12:33
you explain why every time somebody is talking about a large scale production? The hours are insane. This thing's worth nothing when I last few like, right, but how was it not figured out that people can just have a non stressful time with it? It seems like every time the hours are nuts, you know? I don't know. You know, I'm asking.
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Speaker 3
12:59
I honestly wish I had a better answer for this. But because I do the same thing where I'm like, Okay, next season, I've made a list of all the things that like we're going the way that I would hope and I'm going to we're going to change it. And I like think I have this big masterful plan. And then it's just like, because there's so many departments who have to come together to make this one thing. Like, every time someone gets on our set, they say to me, every time I had no idea how many people it took, and how much time it takes to make this. And I'm like, I know, because how could you possibly know? And it's like you're watching 42 minutes of TV and it is come together perfectly on your TV. So you're thinking great, well, that took a 14 hour day. And I think it's just because of all the moving parts. I mean, you just can't control any of it. So like if something happens, everyone has to stop down and kind of like figure out how to make that now not happen or how to fix it to move on. And it just takes time. I don't even know the answer to be honest.
Law Smith
14:00
That being the answers, there's no answer, probably.
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Speaker 2
14:04
Because there's a lot of creatives like everybody, everybody has to be a little bit creative. Your costume design everything. So like, there can be that. Ego sometimes maybe.
Law Smith
14:17
Well, I hear a lot of lamenting in this situation about producers got to get their stank on it. They got to touch it. Yeah, you can justify their job. Not necessarily you it seems like you're in the trenches. But I'm saying like the people that you know, and generally speaking, obviously, we don't know how the show's set up. I don't want to have anybody see this interview? For some reason, get in trouble, but like, No, you know, like, there's people that aren't on set that are having to make their touches on it. Or whatever.
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Animators in Korea. Sure.
Law Smith
14:53
Yeah. Graphic designers and Alburquerque anything Yeah. that Japan has to say, I wanted to go obscure that, you know, they have to be able to justify their job as being you know, a producer from from afar or remote or whatever you would call
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Speaker 3
15:13
Yeah. I luckily we don't have that situation because are the final say big guys are there? Also, I was there on set with me,
Law Smith
15:24
I'm still thinking about you thriving and chaos. I also think there's an inverse to that where you kind of get bored easily with redundancy, or like, definitely do. Yeah, I think that's the other way of kind of looking at that, too. It's not that you love chaos. You probably handle it better than a lot of people. But I I get a lot of this too, because like, I didn't get it till later in life, but it was been reflected back at me that I I'll get bored if it's, there's nothing really challenging going on. And almost that add weight a good way. If that makes sense. Yeah, do you?
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Speaker 3
16:04
My My mom always laughs like when I come home, I'm from Destin, Florida, as you know, and when I will come home a day into it. I'll be just be like, what are we doing today? What's like, where are we going? What are we doing? Like, let's, um, like, um, do you need to know, what are you doing?
Law Smith
16:22
Well, there's also like, I feel the calendar up to even if like, you don't have anything going on, it'll surprisingly get full right? Yeah. And I'm, I've always been
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confusing, though. I never know what's real.
Law Smith
16:33
But personally, I've a lot of what is that seven or eight color calendars don't
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Speaker 2
16:41
get that for me. You have to tell me everything. There's no personal labels.
Law Smith
16:45
I'm working on it. I'm working on scaling that down to be
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to allow you and more readable by other
Law Smith
16:51
people that I work with or hang out with. But it's one of those things where, you know, I'm always like, you're only on this blue marble for so long. And for the most part, I'll try to, I'll feel like a bag of shit if I didn't do anything. You know, somewhat productive. I'll have my lazy days. Like, I've had this kind of week. But like, you know, I'll get so guilty about not doing stuff. Is that kind of the same thing? Or?
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Speaker 3
17:17
Yeah, I do. I remember like when I had roommates, like back in the day, like, my friends would be like, why can you not just chill out, but I'm like, I'm up with the sun. I'm out the door. I'm on I'm doing something and then I grew up that way. My dad was like that he did not. He doesn't chill like he would he wakes up at four 430 he you know, he's a slow morning. He's not doing much, but it's like he's up. Oh, man. Call me up.
Law Smith
17:43
Yeah, they can have a chat. You do that every morning.
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Speaker 2
17:46
Yeah, I'm the same way those slow morning. Like just get get the little things done that nobody wants to bother with me while I'm doing it. So
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Speaker 3
17:56
that's, I mean, he had four He has four kids. I mean, I'm saying like growing up, there was four kids in the house. I you know, had a job. So he's like, if I want to wake up and have a moment of like, my own thought process and Rafi watch the news. I got to do that before anyone else is stirring that
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Speaker 2
18:13
gets in the way, Eric. Exactly what what how I justified
Law Smith
18:17
it to the best pitch Eric gave for that. And I did it for like a month. And it was I got more shit done in that month than I've ever done I think because the way you pitched it that really sold it. I mean, we talked about it for probably years on the show, but it was like, no one takes your mornings away. And so getting up early. There's no one up you can't really call anybody except your dad. And then his cost his number. Yeah. And then like I'll see him at the meetings. It's the same thing is like when I'm on a plane I usually like I used to have to fly from Tampa to La a lot and I get more done on the plane. Because I'm like well what else fuck else
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am I gonna do right? No curveballs
Law Smith
19:01
just answer emails and when I landed they would just go out and look but I don't know. I think there's something to be said. I think Lindsay and I probably need to go back to something like that. Or at least I do. But what I'll do is if I feel like shits getting chaotic, I'll almost be punitive myself and make myself wake up if you wake up at four but 430 is as bad as early as I'm gonna go
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Speaker 3
19:26
30 is a little that's a little too much for me but I do like to be up by seven. Yeah. And I don't I in this industry doesn't get going. I mean, if we're not filming if it's like pre production like no one's mood no one's asking to talk to you before 10 Like I have a lot of times like go on a walk have a coffee like do something for myself.
Law Smith
19:46
Yeah, also I not good and I don't want to talk to really anybody. Like right the first nobody
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Speaker 2
19:50
knows what a grump I am in the morning, right? But
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Speaker 3
19:55
actually, if you wake up at four, when do you allow your day to be open to the public
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Speaker 2
20:01
I usually have with velvet rope when you open. Like, I wake the kids up when I have the kids to take him to school at 645.
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Speaker 3
20:11
Okay, so so you get a solid like two, two and a half to your
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solid two and a half. Yeah, treadmill
Law Smith
20:20
do some late. Yeah. Guy stuff like that man,
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Speaker 3
20:24
the guy stuff. I do think also it changes. You just said you have kids. I don't have kids. So I like right now. I think if I were to if I were to have kids, I would have to change my 7am to a little bit earlier, obviously, to have a little more alone time. But
Law Smith
20:37
again, I think you'd be great mama because of that being able to thrive in chaos kind of thing or adapt? Yeah, adaptability. Well, that's part that's probably a lot of your job too, is adapting. You know, and dealing with Creatives or people that are headstrong, a baby doesn't. You don't really have a lot of negotiating with a baby.
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Speaker 3
20:57
Right? Yeah, there's a lot of personalities. And a lot of I was actually just saying that to like I had I had up a team. And there's a lot of managing of personalities with that to where I'm like, I wasn't expecting that to be such a part of my job. Yeah. But it is time.
Law Smith
21:17
Well, we said the big we said a lot on the show, the biggest thing of business is managing the very the big variables, people. And a lot of ways trying to hire people is expensive and, and tough, like tough to really get it on people's
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Speaker 2
21:31
like you can have the whole other non people side you can have that down to a tee it can be bulletproof. It works perfectly. And then if two people suck, it doesn't doesn't matter.
Law Smith
21:41
Yeah, at all. And you're not getting a lot of people that are the similar group. Right? So it's not like you're getting like a barracks of army guys. You're getting like, just a bunch of random people that are coming. Coming together on the production side and the on film on screen side. Right. So yeah. So
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Speaker 2
22:02
they're not doing personality testing to make sure you guys are all compatible before you go out
Law Smith
22:08
there. Do you? Yeah, I never really thought about that. Until now. I saw a weird amount of people. I'm used to it from comedy like, had, like, really weird crowds over the weekend. It's like, oh, this is what makes comedy really fun. Because I'm going to be like, Oh, you too are lesbians that this happened Sunday night. You too are lesbians that used to be in the deck. And now you met on Myspace 15 years ago, and you kept in touch? I have to find out about this. I need to know. No more and talk to him for a good you know, solid five minutes about it. Yeah, yeah. Cuz I'm like that all that stuff. But that, then I'm but I'm done. When I'm off stage. I just, if I'm surprised if we remembered it right now. Like I'm on the next thing. You still have to be there with them, presumably for two weeks at a time? Or 14 hour days and stuff like that? Yeah. What about the COVID aspect of it? Is it? I mean, you've kind of touched on it. But everybody, you're in California. So it's more restrictive? In a lot of ways. You're not in LA? So it's not superduper? I don't think
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Speaker 3
23:12
yeah, it's very much just like, follow the guidelines of like, of that county. And then also on top of that, it's like, and then hey, guys, try not to go, you know, have big group dinners and try not to go to this because if we're down, like, if we're down somebody that total that's one of those things that can cause the day to be longer. When you lose somebody. Because they've tested positive, you have to keep testing them until they test negative, and then you've lost a body that has a job to do on set.
Law Smith
23:40
Well, I don't want to I don't want to lose focus of why we wanted to have you on. We could talk to you about TV production for a while. But tell us about the podcast, Table five is table five, not table four or five, right?
23:54
It's table five.
Law Smith
23:55
Okay. How would How did the name come about? Because there's a name. I think he got his name in the title, by the way, because there's a couple table fives out there when I was looking for the link.
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Speaker 3
24:06
No. Well, so I never wanted my name in the title. And I'm realizing that I does. Maybe I need to put it up that way. Like maybe I can call it table five and all that but like on the platforms, maybe I need to add my name, but
Law Smith
24:18
people will call it table five. We did the same thing. We didn't have our name and the title. And then we realized people were searching for names if it's, you know, an arm's length of us kind of thing. Interesting. So, or there's a lot of sweat equities that were out there anymore. That Eric put the kibosh on intellectual property wise,
24:37
we own the trademark so
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Speaker 3
24:38
Oh, cool. I did see when I was listening to your podcast that it does have
Law Smith
24:43
the the rare guests that actually listened to coming on.
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Speaker 3
24:48
Oh, of course you have to do your homework. That's the producer brain. Yeah. Well,
Law Smith
24:52
you think the same way law knew the name of yours? Yeah, sure. No numbers, bring it to the table. 4510 No, no. It wasn't table four or five, like, like, John. You show.
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Speaker 3
25:05
I also had never known about John fabros. And someone mentioned that and I was like, but I
Law Smith
25:10
mean, that was a podcast IFC. Essentially he just had five interesting people. And, like, several cameras, good angles to get everybody in. They had good combo. And
25:20
yeah, it's a great concept.
Law Smith
25:22
So you're, you're interviewing chefs and restaurant tours. I didn't know. This is a big love of yours. I mean, maybe you're, you're holding it back a little bit. But why do you want to talk to Why didn't you cook from it? Yeah. What did yeah, what the hell
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Speaker 3
25:38
I think it came from so I mean, I've always loved food and going out to dinner. And obviously, when I moved to LA, I was right out of college, so young, and had no I mean, that just like opened up to all the places you could go the food, you could try never had so many different types of cuisine before. So I've always been into food. And then I moved to New York for a couple years and was actually managing. I was a hostess and then started managing a restaurant in New York, called the Odeon and Tribeca. And there I learned, like, I became fascinated with the way the owners like ran that restaurant, I learned such insane restaurant etiquette, just about like, don't take someone's plate when someone else is still eating just little things like that, that that happens at restaurants all over. But their did not because that makes the person who's still eating feel weird. And like just little things that I just was fascinated by the restaurant industry. And they would do wine pairings with the special before service, the server could actually say, you should have this with this wine and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I loved that, and end up really kind of falling in love with the restaurant industry when I was in New York. And when I was managing that restaurant, there's this cute little round, and cat like table in the corner of the restaurant that you could see, I could sit there for my manager meal at night, like when the restaurant would be kind of like slowing down. And I could see the front door still, I could see the bar and I could see the entire restaurant. And I would go sit at that table. And I would wait until people got up from because I just loved it. And it was table five.
Law Smith
27:11
Ah, there's the name, mafia style to Japan to the wall. So me sneaking up on you had all the exit points. Yeah,
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Speaker 3
27:21
totally. Um, so that's the name. And then when I started working in Food TV, I would meet really incredible chefs. And some I'd heard of some I hadn't, but then I'd get to know them through the show, or through work or whatever. And I'd go try their restaurants. And then I just realized, I'm interviewing them all the time. But when you interview a chef on our shows, you're getting the process of what they just made. So like if they made, you know, a crawfish FGFA like I'm like, Okay, tell me how you made your rule. Why is the rule important? Okay, and now you're going to talk to the crawfish I'm getting like,
Law Smith
27:55
I need you to repeat the question in the answer, please. Yeah, yeah. And like,
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Speaker 3
27:59
say an incomplete sentence and talking preference editing. This? You know, so I wanted to talk to them about more just kind of like, I mean, I just love talking to people in general. Like, I mean, I'm a conversationalist. And I enjoy. I want to know where you come from, why you think that way? What are your parents do like you are? That is why like, what makes you tick, I love that kind of stuff.
Law Smith
28:22
You are that good friend, you could take out to a bar. And you're just like, I'm not. I don't usually go out of my way to talk to a lot of people at a bar or something. But you need the friend like you that will will just open up a conversation with anybody. I love it. So what makes us do that? What makes you fascinated with I guess the human condition meets restaurant tours and chefs? What? They're all kind of crazy, right?
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Speaker 3
28:48
Yeah, I mean, maybe maybe not. I think it's more just like the, that is the the world that I'm in right now. So it's a little exciting. And also, I just love that industry. I mean, if I, when I was a, you know, booking talent and like doing talent producing stuff I had my world was celebrities. Maybe I would have been like, Oh, I'm gonna interview celebrities, but my world right now is chefs. And it's a fascination of mine anyways, and like, I just like knowing how people learn. I don't cook. I mean, I think I can if I have a recipe and I try, but it doesn't come naturally to me and I have always wanted it to my boyfriend used to be a chef and he, like worked in restaurants and he can just whip up anything at any time. And I'm so envious of that. So I think just chefs in general just that life I
Law Smith
29:35
enjoy. Yeah, I feel like um, I feel like a lot of the famous chefs are kind of like a lot of famous comics like they can break down comedy and show you how joke works and stuff like that. But you really want to kind of takes the magic of it away sometimes. Or at least the girl says, I suppose be crazy. I'd
29:53
never heard that.
Law Smith
29:54
I've heard I've I've heard that as a persona. Like in general like not only One of
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Speaker 3
30:00
those, like, you know, stereotypes that most people would say is a common misconception. And some people will be like hell yeah. You know, it's like anything.
Law Smith
30:07
Where do you sit on that?
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Speaker 3
30:09
I actually, to be honest, I don't know. I haven't met a chef that I would say,
Law Smith
30:15
names. Do it. Crazy.
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Speaker 3
30:17
I mean, I've worked I when I was in the restaurant industry, I had a chef at one point who I was like, Whoa, like you something is like he just was not. I don't know. Like, you could tell he just like maybe didn't like his job. And so I found him crazy in that sense, because I was like, why are you here everyday being miserable? Like, I don't know. Oh, well,
30:38
I mean, crazy for not liking his job is not the kind of crazy.
30:40
I don't know the crazy stereotype.
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Speaker 2
30:43
Like you're afraid when he's chopping carrots crazy. Like, today, he shouldn't be allowed to have that knife. I think working
Law Smith
30:50
in front of like, an open flame or just as hot as shit in there all the time. Right. Sure. Yeah, rarely get a break. Right. Yeah. You know, yeah. Another situation where it's always crazy. chaotic. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 3
31:02
that's what I think. Like people always want to make chefs like in the same category is like that stereotypical, like rock stars, like rock stars go and they, they, you know, mess up their hotel rooms, they leave a bit of a mess. And then they're like, you know, on drugs and alcohol or whatever. And like, Is that always the case? I doubt it. I don't know.
Law Smith
31:21
Yeah. Is Ed Sheeran doing that? I don't think so.
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Speaker 3
31:25
So I personally couldn't say i Crazy chef stereotype. I have not met it myself. But
Law Smith
31:33
I feel like it's a certain OCD. I think the rock star comparison in my head always goes to like musicians, or they're very particular about them playing music and how they do it. And their their process for that. I think being a chef's I'll process or, but there's an actual, like, there's more of a professional, like track for them, for lack of a better kind of way to explain it. Like, yeah, you got to work your way up. And you got to demand that there's a demand and but you also have to work your way up. You don't just start out as being a virtuoso. Like there is a chain of command kind of thing. Well, alright, we're gonna keep this because we know you're on set. And you got to finish your cocktail. We ask everybody the first time on the show. What advice would you give your 13 year old self?
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Speaker 3
32:25
Yeah. I thought about that when I'm, I want to say
Law Smith
32:31
be fair, I give her a heads up because she said she was so slammed and I felt bad. Katrina Oh,
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Speaker 3
32:36
your heads up came about like five minutes ago. So it wasn't a true heads up. And I appreciate that, actually. So don't
Law Smith
32:41
better than most.
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Speaker 3
32:42
I like it. Um, I think I would maybe say something. Because even at 13 I think I was I it was in my head like, timeline, like doing things when everyone else was doing things. I think I would maybe say to myself, like, no one else is timeline matters, but yours kind of thing. Like I I was always slow to like, do all the things like I just I didn't like I remember like being upset that I hadn't had my first kiss yet. And I thought that I was like the biggest loser or like, no one was gonna like it's never gonna happen now. And I was I
33:16
met that guy in the garage.
33:20
That law Smith, yes, Hollywood, California and
Law Smith
33:23
turn gay for a minute. And then now back with a dude.
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Speaker 3
33:27
Yeah, I think it would maybe say timeline. And I think that advice would stay with me throughout. I mean, even now, it's like,
Law Smith
33:34
yeah, that's timeline. That social pressure of thing in like, adults do this a lot to a surprising amount of adults. We're friends with. They think everybody's thinking about their shit. Yeah, no one cares. No one's nobody cares about their own shit, right. Yeah. So yeah, we hear a lot of radio noise. Like something to that degree. Like, I wish I was just everybody's looking at me right here. Right. Except that the middle school was when I couldn't hide a boner. That was bad. Oh, everybody saw that? Yeah, that was bad. You know, don't wear um, rose to middle school dance. That's what I tell my son.
34:11
Um, Rose. I haven't heard that word is so.
Law Smith
34:14
Well, we're a 90s reference machine over here. Yeah. We're gonna go put on our hypercolor T shirts and play bop it as soon as we get off of this.
34:22
Oh my gosh, Bob.
Law Smith
34:26
So where can people find it? It's on Apple podcast, Spotify. We'll put them on Apple,
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Speaker 3
34:31
Spotify Public Radio. I think it's wherever you get your podcasts.
Law Smith
34:35
Ooh. Then you said with the effect I like it. Well, good to catch up and good to have you on and onward and upward with the podcast.
34:44
We thank you so much for having me
Law Smith
34:46
when new episodes come out every month.
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Speaker 3
34:48
So right now their monthly I'm hoping to get to the point where I can do like two a month but as you know, with work being so crazy and a podcast takes time.
Law Smith
34:57
Depends on the show, you know? Yeah. Depends on you. You want to do it if you want to make it? Probably high high produce like yours. I'm assuming I didn't get to listen to it yet. I'm sure you're perfectionist on it.
35:12
Yeah, I'm a little bit of a perfectionist.
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Speaker 2
35:14
Can't be a perfectionist. Yeah. People want watched our show, right?
Law Smith
35:20
You don't have to use us as a template necessarily. But But I mean, like people want when they want words and all they want the authentic conversation. That's why we keep in that just the first couple minutes of us just bumbling through. My
35:31
point is don't let it stop you. Yeah,
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Speaker 3
35:34
yeah. For sure. I've gotten definitely let go of some things throughout the process. But yeah, it's fine. I'm hoping to do a couple of months. And maybe eventually I'll be doing them weekly. Who knows. But right now the next one will be first week in February.
Law Smith
35:49
Well, don't hesitate to hit us up. No, almost no one takes us up on that. But we're happy to help if you need, like any help that we might know. So thank you so much, our girlfriend. See you later. Thanks for having me.
