#316: How To Persevere To Becoming A Billionaire w/ Giggidy App's Katie Ambrose

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Law (48%), Speaker 2 (48%), Speaker 3 (2%) 

Law Smith

0:02

sweat equity podcast in streaming show the number one comedy business podcast in the world. You're a little excited because we have our guest, Katie Ambrose in the house in the house. I'm hearing voice there. Boop, boop boop, oops, oops. Yeah, you're all good. We are pragmatic entrepreneurial advice with real raw, no Taco Bell loop. Little believe in that. In the entrepreneurial ear. I'm your host last missing my right your left on the tube is Eric Readinger. Some people call me cool Eric 2020 best small medium enterprise business advisory podcast in the United States. Thanks to low Lux glow coming. Global excellence word proudly hosted by Lux Life magazine. Listen to us on Apple, Apple podcasts, iTunes, Spotify, I'm reading this through my microphone for some reason. I could just do this. Ah. So it's not like a scope. That's for all the viewing listeners. We're on Vimeo YouTube. Facebook page will be on there anywhere. Your mom likes to watch podcast we're on it does give us a subscribe rate and review that helps us get the cheat code of the business podcast. Speaking of business, what do you want? You want a phone line for entrepreneurs? That's grasshopper track grasshopper.com. forward slash sweat gets you $75 off an annual plan. What's great, what's grasshopper you say? I'm having a stroke. Try grasshopper.com forward slash sweat like he sweat gets you $75 off an annual plan. It's an extra phone line on your phone don't carry two cell phones around. Don't do Google Voice because you can't do any advertising with that. Google Voice numbers. So if you blow up, you try to do ads through YouTube through Google. You can't put into your Google Voice number. And then you can't put I don't know. Try grasshopper.com forward slash What? gets you $75 off an annual plan. Let's get this party started before I die. Yeah. Woody. Woody. Woody. About my sweat equity. It's the sweltering heat that's getting to me to think Katie about all the other times. Welcome back when you come on. Thank

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Speaker 2

2:36

you. I was just trying to think about that in the car. I think like five months ago, five months

Law Smith

2:41

ago. We change your life dramatically. So when you came on the podcast last time, you were still in this trying to get funding phase. And we met I don't know maybe two months prior to that. So we had met you, you were trying to get this thing going giggity if you want to explain it well, what it's called, and not being weird.

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Speaker 2

3:08

So So giggity is a it's a local music finder and booking app. And basically, I built a platform that allows artists and venues to be their own booking agent, and allows people which I call them supporters to find local live music in their community. So I took a lot of the legwork out for artists and venues, trying to book and find their own shows, and whatnot. So at this point, like now that I finally found funding, it's just a matter of

Law Smith

3:39

the real drama. Yeah. So okay, so we met through a mutual friend that was saying, hey, maybe you can help her out. I was like, I'm not a kingmaker necessarily, but I made a lot of money. It's and so you, you definitely had the disposition of someone who actually wanted to get this thing going, which is I think, why I was like, yeah, I'm in to help. Whatever I can

4:07

does make a huge difference. I mean, it determination sometimes. Like, I don't know, you know, I got to really concentrate on my job and family.

Law Smith

4:14

Well, you know, yeah, well, it's positioned right. It's like, sometimes you don't have that and we'll go through some of the hurdles you've just been going through while getting this funding which is like, it's, it's, you're up the rocky stairs, right. You're, you're running up the stairs, and you're up that first. You haven't bought the movie. Yeah, yeah. you're you're you're getting up to the thing where you're like, it's taken so long, just to get your way like two half years. Yeah, it's been volunteers and you've been repairs, and you've been bartending just to make ends meet kind of thing. Yeah. And so you have this idea, you go, this is a definite need. It's still definitely like, this was never really the way I kind of pitched it to Eric and some other people's like, think Airbnb for live music. Like it needs to exist. Like, we're in such a self promotion era, if you're doing your own band, someone in the groups got to be the entrepreneurial one for the group, you know, and you were around that for how many years for, like, you know, a decade of just going around and actually just looking at looking at bands and being like, you guys should be playing here This place is, but the bars also don't have their shit together, right? Oh, no.

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Speaker 2

5:29

And I came up with the idea after dating a musician for about three years and just going into hundreds of his gigs. And I honestly, I never really had an appreciation for music, let alone live music until I started eating and musician. And I think part of like, my entrepreneurial spirit that I've always had since I was a kid, like, I went to my first patent attorney when I was probably like, 17 with a prototype.

Law Smith

5:53

When Yeah, what's that?

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Speaker 2

5:55

What was it probably still gonna do it? Okay, no, I, they wanted like 1800 bucks for patent search. And I was so young, I didn't have the money. And I was just like, swept it under the rug, we'll get you $1. But I probably still kind of want to do because it's still not out there. So like, I like when I was a kid, I had like a notebook that I would just write just different ideas and everything like that. So I feel like once I started dating a musician, I just kind of saw this huge need for something like anything better than dealing with kind of traditional booking agents and everything like that. And I sat with him after one of his gigs. And I was like, Hey, what do you think about, you know, this concept, and this and that. And I knew immediately I wanted to name it giggity. And he just thought it was a great idea. And then nothing really came about it for probably another year and a half. And then when we had broken up, I was like, You know what, like, I want to buck and

Law Smith

6:55

it's ambitious, right? That's probably why it scares people. You know, we're all kind of self preservation mode a lot of the time so I'm sure. I'm sure one of the fights was he may not have believed in it. Because it's, to me, it feels so overwhelming to try to try to harness this. But literally, we just interview with a friend of mine, Talia Goldstein, who just was she made this three day rule kind of company. To me, that seems overwhelming, but do not follow that. It's you know, she That's what she said, Don't don't follow the rule of three days. Oh, yeah, follow the follow the media company, whatever the brand, but like matchmaking on a high end level seems like astronomically difficult for me because it's just dealing with so many people. And I guess that's my, my, like, self preservation mode goes into god that's ambitious to go. Not only am I speaking to the live bands that were more or less that will be incentivized. I say the hard part is the venues right? Because there's always there's always gonna be guys on Bar Rescue. There's always, like, never run out of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2

8:07

I, when I was pretty much when I was done building my prototype, I started going around to a lot of local artists and venues like, Hey, you know, I built this showing them just kind of like the futures like what do you think about it? Is it something you would use? Is there something that I'm missing that you would like to see in it? And so a lot of my futures do also come from musicians that were like, hey, it'd be really cool if you added this in there. And I'd be like, done and I'd go on the computer and add it in there and everything. And then the but there's one venue that I went to name it

Law Smith

8:40

names, but

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Speaker 2

8:41

it was out in South Florida and never said because it's funny to have my launch party, they're lucky to have you. Like, oh, we're gonna launch but I'm gonna

Law Smith

8:54

give you money. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2

8:56

go I'm not gonna go there. But, um, but so I met up with the owner and I showed him my prototype. And I was like, you know, would this be something you use? And I feel like he looked at it almost like a threat. And

Law Smith

9:06

that's how Yeah,

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Speaker 2

9:08

yeah. And he like immediately was like, you know, cuz he books his own his own gigs there and whatnot. And they have like, a chalkboard calendar when you walk in, like the Facebook and Instagram posts. And then I showed him what I was working on. And he like, immediately was just like, like the look on his face. It just looked like he saw a ghost kind of know what I said. No. When you think

Law Smith

9:32

when you walk in, I've been doing this a lot more. What do I want to get out of this meeting? Do Did you think that beforehand, like no,

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Speaker 2

9:38

I? Well, when I went in, like I was, I went in with a friend and we went to go see a friend's local band play. And it was like right when South Florida was just opening back up with bars, okay, from code from COVID. And so the place was jam packed. And I saw him kind of like walk by and I asked him like, whenever you have time, if he can come to the bar, and I can Just pick his brain about something real quick. So it wasn't even like I didn't call him like set up a meeting or anything. But, um, and then a few of the bands that were there to like I showed them that. And they, it seems, for sure, like, the artists are definitely like, this is something we really need. And I have shown a couple other venues and you know, they're totally on board with it. So, but once I actually get this, like, made in production, like I want to start with a website that I have funding, because it's going to be a lot more cost efficient to do a website and go right to an app right away. Hi. Do that. Yeah, cuz I want to get the website. Give me money. Yeah. I will give you money.

Law Smith

10:44

Yeah. But I mean, money now is worth through. I'll vouch for him on air. He's walked through just complex stuff. If you're you're kind of looking at but yeah, it should be a website first. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Cuz the next, you're going to be gone for that next level of funding with your partner assume to get that thing to be.

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Speaker 2

11:03

And then like, with the website, it's for me right now, it's just really important to have ad space to sell ad space, so I could just get enough money that I can get the app started to Yeah, I feel like it's gonna be tough finding guide and help you out there. I mean, I feel like with, I don't know, I feel like after COVID, especially now that everything's opening up, like, I think a lot of artists and venues are really eager to kind of get people back in the doors and whatnot, and any opportunity for them to advertise on something and especially if it's a new like up and coming platform for supporters for people to actually find like music. Yeah, I think and I would do it, you know, pretty an acts like an expense,

Law Smith

11:46

what I would do right now, if you're looking to do that, and this is kind of how our talks ago, here's how I would go about it, I would have add what they call ad inventory space that's already built out. Maybe you don't have things advertising there yet, but have it as almost the beta test. So if anybody does come to the site, you have a little you have a little kind of copy folder. Yeah, little copy at the bottom, want to advertise here kind of thing as a direct buy. Ad. So you're not doing AdSense. It's not called AdSense anymore on Google. But it might be I can't remember, but you're not doing that thing was just placing ads willy nilly. It's more direct buy. And then

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Speaker 2

12:25

that's like with my, I built just kind of like a prototype for my website. So whenever I show somebody to build my website, I just pointed over and be like, hey,

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Speaker 3

12:33

my God, that's amazing. Already does that. Or I would pay I like this one,

Law Smith

12:39

I put the local bands in there too, as feature bands, because you're going to want to have this option for them to pay within the site to to boost their promotion up to

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Speaker 2

12:50

Well, at first like I'm thinking just kind of besides selling ad space, kind of making everything for free to store because sign up and when you daily active then there's like other like a couple other features that I want to add that would essentially cost money if they wanted to use it. But I mean, just when I start off with my website, I just want it to be pretty basic. And then I can build a

Law Smith

13:16

basic, basic. Basic, basically Eric is when he goes by Call me when I go out in Nebraska. So the thing is, so yeah, that's the way to go about it. Get as many users as you can, where you can, where you don't have to raise fees, but you should be charging one side or the other. Definitely the venue for your service. So yeah, both.

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Speaker 2

13:41

Eventually, it's going to be both and I have there's so many ways to monetize, I

Law Smith

13:49

was back up it's ridiculous how, how much like I'm a I'm a I'm just a bar that has pride. 200 seats. I like live music. I want someone there on a Saturday night, a band play cover band, what what's the going rate of that in South Florida or the Tampa Bay area? What like, what's legit because people ask me this with stand up and I'm like, I don't know, it's wild. So I count on making money in stand up until you do

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Speaker 2

14:16

with with my exes band. There was anywhere between like three or four of them. And they would get paid between about $150 each. So between like for, like 350 and 500. For like for like our, for our site. I would say the average is probably around 400 for three or four hours set. That's,

Law Smith

14:41

you know, doing stand up that I'm like, that's the that's why like kind of like when you see like headlining kids. My God, when you see bands that have like this numbers or so like with their saxophones, yeah, but I look at that as this rollovers and like they have someone to hang out with. be miserable and you get friends you're just put with other miserable at more than

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Speaker 2

15:08

Fridays obviously you get paid like his band on New Year's Eve, they would get paid like 700 each. I hope so. Yeah, they like on holidays. So but it all depends by basically basically the platform I know I'm acting as like, I'm like the Tinder for the music industry like all like be matching up artists and venues with gigs and you know, their desired pay range and stuff like that. So yeah, I think it's, I think it's definitely going to

Law Smith

15:37

definitely work out like it's gonna happen, like what you're doing and you know, this like, it's someone's gonna make it happen. Why not? You You have the insider knowledge. What better you than some VC firm that's like, this would be a good idea. we'll kick this down to someone that likes music, you know, venture capitalists.

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Speaker 2

15:55

Yeah, no, that's not Vietcong. And that's one great thing about how I met my investor.

Law Smith

16:01

Okay is so I met How does one meet an investor at a buffo ceremony? at a what what now? buffo ceremony actually means but fuck is that a ceremony? Yeah, it's a ceremony. We go gay. Is that what happened? Did you come in?

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Speaker 2

16:24

So what a beautiful ceremony is is 13 Iosco ceremonies, so humblebrag and so Bufo is does meta humans so like, you know, when people talk about Toad that they're like, dogs eat and they their dogs die and stuff. So that's the toad by it, like you smoke the venom. It's basically like,

Law Smith

16:47

of it's probably one of the guys in here right now.

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Speaker 2

16:55

But basically, it's like the most intense psychedelic on the planet. Whoa. And so I met her for some reason. I had a feeling that I would meet my investor at a ceremony. Like everything, like I'm telling you like, the power of manifestation is like, wow. Really, but magic is real, like, like everything that I've from even just like moving up here to the place that I found to my investor to find to kind of like, the characteristics of an investor like just everything how everything's been working out, it's happened exactly how I wanted it to so I think it's just kind of crazy, but

Law Smith

17:38

so I'm personally a believer, you make your own luck. That's that. Yeah. That might be the American in me. I'm so American. You know, totally your most American guy. Just watch macho man. I'm like, I'm more American. And more American and Hulk all the wrestlers all of them out there. No, I are American the No. Huh? Yeah. Nothing's more American. Come on. guys so much. It's so hard to not do macho man all the time. Now. Did you know what he's Jewish? I know he's not as you know, he's Cuban. Yeah, brothers, he really? Yeah. They didn't touch on that in the day and he biography hurry something. He's Jewish. Yeah, but he's also Hispanic. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Cuban. But I it's a mozzies off. Sorry. Alright. So if this show can't go on macho man to watch, I don't want to do it. I know. Alright, so you I Alaska, for the For the uninitiated. Want to explain what that's for? Let's get to the the meeting point of your, your where do we meet these investors at the iOS? Yeah. How do you even schmooze up to anybody at one of those? Hey, I noticed you throwing up I noticed Yeah. I noticed your diary is the same color as expelling all your demons to cool. I've got this idea for an app. So I'm not even gonna lie. Like that's kind of what I do. You gotta make it happen. So a lot. A lot of the ceremonies, there's musicians that play at the ceremony, like if I'm investing in someone, yeah. Great. Yeah. What someone that has that gumption to go, man, she's got vim and vigor in the middle of something that's so gnarly, like and the fact that they're even there, right? That's a big, big idea. So like

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Speaker 2

19:31

for me? Well, for me, once I even decided to get on this business journey. I just I knew that in order to be a successful business person, I had to have a spiritual awakening. And it was something that like, was very, like deep within me for a long time. And once I decided to do this app, it's like, there was a void in me and I knew that that's what it was. And I knew in order to be successful, I had to go like I had to seek one out like I didn't know where I had to seek one out that I heard about iosa. And my first ceremony I had my spiritual awakening my life's drastically changed since. And so like now ceremonies are an extreme, a very big part of my life. But during the ceremonies, there's like a lot, a decent amount of musicians I play everyone's on the medicine, I Alaska,

Law Smith

20:19

for a lot of people is the getting rid of a lot of them. Not everybody, but the way it's been introduced to me a lot of time is getting rid of some kind of drug habit. It's like one of the

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Speaker 2

20:32

interdiction lanes for people that do have any type of addiction or depression or

Law Smith

20:39

through something they carry. It's a good cycle breaker, that's a good way to

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Speaker 2

20:43

so their studies have shown that one Iosco ceremony is equal to 10 years of therapy. Yeah. So like, like, I'm trying to get my dad to go to a ceremony right now because he is extremely depressed and everything and I know it will help him so he might go to one with me at the end of the month, right. I've been working on Oh, man, that's awesome. Yeah. So I want to hear about that. Yeah. And, like, I just I know, it will help him and I've taken friends to them. And they're like, thank you so much like their lives. Things that they were like demons that they were battling, not necessarily depression or addiction, but, you know, like just family issues or obstacles,

Law Smith

21:20

mental hurdles,

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Speaker 2

21:23

things that you don't even think about that is like maybe like weighing your subconscious that is just locked in there. Like it'll totally come out like the Medicine Show me things. I didn't even Yeah, you get used to it for years and years. Like oh, that's always a piece of me. Yeah, no, I'm counting my time. It's actually been coming up making trips up here. Oh, bring him over. lodge studio. Come on down. Oh, man swatches are great. And the ceremony is very intense. And so it took me a while after I first heard about it to decide. I was ready for one. And it was at an animal sanctuary in West Palm Beach. And it was very intimate. There's maybe only six people there whereas the Iosco ceremonies I go to there can be up to 40 people

22:11

whoa, like a lot. It's a lot. Well, I I would prefer to have a life changing event in front of

Law Smith

22:19

me, because it's like

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Speaker 2

22:20

that thing I noticed was probably 40 I think usually it's between like at least 20 I'd want more

Law Smith

22:25

a little bit more people so you can kind of deal you get to tell your jokes. Yeah. Hey guys experience in this diary. Like I got to deal with diarrhea. Am I right guys? I didn't know this is like a beach game that we're going for buckets. I thought we all had our own. I bring my own game.

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Speaker 2

22:42

I bring my own bucket. But yeah, so the Bufo ceremony it's it's definitely a lot more intense. And it only lasts like 10 to 15 minutes, whereas I Alaska is like an all nighter life. And but with the buffo still like my investor, when I when I pulled up to the ceremony. He was walking in his car thought he was the organizer of the ceremony, or that he owned the house good old man that he's sponsible

Law Smith

23:09

I imagine him with one of those old timey leather briefcase like a doctor used to have. He's just walking black bags guy knows business.

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Speaker 2

23:16

Yeah, actually, he's 45 I believe. And he's a tax attorney in Chicago. And we, when we met at the ceremony, we we literally like, I briefly talked about my business, right? Just briefly, so no, just a small elevator pitch that was it. But like, you know, we carried on we had our own little journeys, and then something told me like after his because he was having it seemed like a an intense time when he came out of his experience. So I pulled him now I pulled my blanket over and

Law Smith

23:56

he's at a low point, give

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Speaker 2

23:58

me all your money for for his life. But it's I mean, it can be a very, very, very intense Hell yeah. I can't believe you got

Law Smith

24:06

if anybody wants to listen to Shane moss comedian does a podcast where he does. Duncan Trussell. They talked about it before they do it. They do it. And then they do a post game. It is wild. He's been through the wringer. Yeah.

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Speaker 2

24:20

Off the check it out. Yeah. But it's definitely it's a very, very healing experience. And afterwards, like we stayed in touch, and we didn't talk like hardly anything about business. And we just stated times, like, you know, how's your processing going? and this and that, how you doing? And about a week goes by and he's like,

Law Smith

24:40

how's your capital gains is how are the Chicago

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Speaker 2

24:45

conversation and he's like, Oh, I remember you telling me you're like starting a business like what? What is it about? I was like, Oh, I can show you like, oh, let's set up a zoom meeting. So we set up a zoom meeting, and I showed him my app, and he didn't mention anything. He invest or whatever, I literally wasn't expecting anything to come out of it. Yeah. And then afterwards He's like, and this is actually his first investment. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So he, he, what happened is he has a lot of money in stocks. And he's like, I He's like, you know, he's like, I really like your idea. And this night, he's like, I have all this money in stocks. And he's like, I don't really know what to do with it. He's like, I've been wanting to invest in some business, but I'm not sure what. And he is just a podcast. He's

Law Smith

25:30

like podcast. And so,

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Speaker 2

25:36

money. And so yeah, that's pretty much how it started. And my financial advisor who's going to be my CFO, he was like, the fact that you found a tax attorney that wants to give you 100 grand as an investor, and knows exactly how to route. Yeah, so he's actually going to come in as the controller, he's going to take care of it. Like he wants to be a part of that. Sure. And because he was like, you know, he's like, so he's like, it's so crazy, that it's just crazy how we definitely were meant to meet for a reason. Because, yeah, we were meant to me for a reason. And he's like, you know, I'm tired of wearing student ties to work every day. I'm looking, I've been looking for something, you know, more enjoyable, and he's like, I could come in and basically, yeah, take over the taxi. He's like, I can do what I what I'm good at. But no, that's what I also love

Law Smith

26:30

that amazing. Kind of like Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. Like, I've got this idea I've got, I've got the motor to get it done. I just need a little bit of help yet. And you're kind of filling his cup in a way of like, he did searching for something. Exactly. It is crazy. Yeah. So like, we were on the ground floor, like

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Speaker 2

26:50

the way that we like, like found each other and we're helping each other on more of a level than just, you know, money and this man. He's helping me build my dream and I'm helping him kind of, you know, start his breakout life like break out of that nine to five and you know, stuff like that. So it's it's crazy. So, yeah, he'll be he'll be coming down. Next month. We're gonna get him situated. With my bank. Apparently with Wells Fargo, you have to be there in person to sign. So he's coming down already booked the flight.

Law Smith

27:24

It'll depend on like substantial amounts kind of thing. Or like however y'all figure it out. I'm sure he wants to be taxed in Florida. Over Illinois. I'm sure that's part of it. You got the Sun biz.org you got your

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Speaker 2

27:35

LLC we we added it we already added like did the whole LLC thing and he already transferred me half so he's gonna do the other half when he comes down. And it's Yeah, I'm gonna take him to this first Iosco ceremonies and that'll be fun. Yeah.

Law Smith

27:51

I'll be there separately. We won't talk. You can talk websites on the way. Yeah, there you go. That's how far is this trip? How far we go. Only four hours, huh? We're in South Florida. Miami. in Orlando. But there's a church. I have Alaska in Orlando. I know. You don't want to do that one. All right. Oh, actually, you don't want to Brony Dude, I know. I don't. Yeah, if you're gonna do it,

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Speaker 2

28:19

if you're gonna do it, like I'm telling you, you're just all like go to my shaman. Okie dokie is freakin amazing. All right, the traditional Native American ceremonies. What's his name? Jerome?

28:32

De Lorenzo. Yeah, contractor Roman. No. That's good. He is hilarious. Okay, you guys, you guys. Okay, well, we'll be the judge.

28:48

He's hilarious.

Law Smith

28:49

He's charming. Funny, right? He's only funny with the comments are funny. I'm

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Speaker 3

28:55

like, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. intergalactic sort of way. Yeah, we're nothing.

Law Smith

29:03

Yeah, he's very existentially right, you guys know I have a piece of dirt on you like yourself. Because it was like one month I talked to a bunch of stuff going on personally. And then the next like this happened and was like, Oh my god, what about a mitzvah? So? So? Yeah, yeah. deal with all of this.

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Speaker 3

29:23

Hebrew. I notice. Yeah. But because it is a traditionally Hebrew ceremony. Yeah. Oh, Oscar. Yes.

29:33

Oh, GLAMAZON.

Law Smith

29:35

The indigenous not amazon.com the Amazon silences microphone. Yeah, I can. He has the control here. He was a Jew. So because we only have a few minutes left, waiting gold. I know but I'm so sweaty in here. I'm gonna throw up. What is the next steps besides hire Eric to do your website site hard. Sell What? Already know you got 50 grand? Yeah. Yeah, that'll be a big mistake. Never tell coincidentally my fee. Yeah. Well, we were telling you we do it for some crank, just crank this up and we'll fucking knock it out. But what is crank? The drug? The truck driving? Not that. Yes. But what is the monsters? What? What's the next steps? What's on your mind going forward that you're nervous about?

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Speaker 2

30:33

Um, right now it's basically I have to find a team. Yeah, like I need a couple I need like a couple developers and stuff like that and know how to do that. But I could probably figure it out. I need I need Philippine Eric to make my website. And then there's a couple of like development companies that I've reached out to in the past, I might revisit one that I spoke to about a year ago in India. at developing companies, you know, I got some money. It's not a it's really a no,

Law Smith

31:03

no, no, it's gonna be gone. And it's gonna get you it's gonna allow you to work on this. 24 seven. Yeah. And then it's but I think I still advise and this is me being dad. advice he didn't ask for. I still advise you still have some kind of other job? Oh, yeah. Because I think it will keep your motor running. Yeah, I think if you just all your time is spent on this. It'll consume too much. And sometimes you can't see before.

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Speaker 2

31:30

So I already went yesterday and checked out a bar. So But yeah, I want to try to find like a live music venue that I can work at like two nights a week so that way I can also network and stuff like that. Right? You need to be here, I

Law Smith

31:43

think. Yeah, ingratiate yourself. Yes. Yeah. Well, there's a super awesome biker bar that just opened up really. We're not allowed to have curly my hair. Looks like American History X. If you have any. Wear, you can wear combat boots and black gencos. He loves to where it was a massive place. It's a huge venue. What? What so that so finding the team, so anybody listening that has a view for app developers,

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Speaker 2

32:15

app developers, I'm looking for a full stack developer UI UX designer. I need obviously, a front end. So maybe if I can find two full stack developers, and maybe I'm here

Law Smith

32:27

I can talk to the all day team for you. Yes. Oh, yeah. Because they might not pan right. It might do it on a part of a small percentage or something. But yeah, yeah. Well, either way. I mean, I can help you for sure. All right, cool. Well done. What advice would you give yourself? Give me money. That's how it goes. Between last time you came on. Now, what any advice you give yourself back? Six months ago?

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Speaker 3

32:53

How old are you? 33? How, what advice would give you would you give to your 32 year old self? Yeah. Well, I remember you asked this question last night is that the same question is gonna be the same answer. This is different though.

Law Smith

33:07

I want to change it a second time on now. But it's still always gonna be the same thing. And I that's why I haven't had to don't get advice would you give you five keys? That's fucking I heart Edward Norton. But

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Speaker 2

33:21

like, seriously, like, don't give up. It's been such a huge motto for me. And anytime there's been like an obstacle or anything like that, it's like, you just have to keep pushing forward. And if you have an honestly to, what, six months ago, the advice I would give myself, definitely the power of manifestation, like manifesting is such a real thing. Yeah. And it's like, so I've been like practicing that a lot lately. And so Pinterest is definitely like, that's a really is. Yeah, I mean, I do I do. inspiration board, I do vision boards and everything. And but it's so important to have a goal and really just visualize that, like, you've already succeeded in it. And you'll be so amazed of how it literally just starts to unfold, you've done well, without really, like I barely even had to go out and seek investment because I knew an investor was going to come out as crazy.

Law Smith

34:19

Except everything that you did that you failed to that point led to that.

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Speaker 3

34:24

Yeah, so yeah, there's a discredited nation that you're doing to yourself. When you're like, Oh, I didn't even do anything. Like maybe you did you actually. I saw your pitch deck. Yes,

34:32

I did. I did. So I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2

34:38

yeah. But yeah, like, I mean, yeah, making your own luck. And I, you know, I really, I really didn't have to seek investors. Like I sent it out to a few VC companies and never heard back and that one cheesy investor that just kind of wanted to get a dance. Yeah, you know, but like, how it happened. It just it was so perfect.

Law Smith

35:00

pants. No, no fake boobs. Yeah, no, no yeah anymore. Oh, all charisma hair. That's not true. Yeah, sorry, your your headphones are definitely 50 grand. I'm excited for your future. We're definitely fans we're following. Definitely want to keep helping you. All right.

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