#290: How To Properly Pitch Your App w/ Katelyn Ambrose of Giggidy

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Law Smith

Law Smith

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I'm sure it's out there available.

Law Smith

2:18

You're Austin, you went 512. balls, ball 69. Ball 69. Okay, it's got to be some numbers. Well, you could do a one 800 number. They've got it all hooked up scalable business phone lines. And it has an app on your desktop and mobile. We're just gonna do one ad today. Let's get in it with Katie Ambrose. Let's do this.

Law Smith

3:03

So we usually have guests that have either they're in the middle of doing something and we want to see that progress, which is, which is Katie, sometimes we have some older guests that can you know, give some advice. Right. But you're right in the middle of I want to make sure I cover your NDA. Yeah. I'll try to set the table for anybody listening. Well, I'm trying to kind of pro bono help. Katie with her app, and the pitching part. And just kind of getting you in the scene of these incubators and and whatever resources I can help with. If you listen to the last episode, one of the 2021 goals I had is that, you know, have a pro bono thing. I'm helping someone with that. You know, you hate you say that. Yeah, I got one. We're talking about one one a quarter. Yeah, it could be charity. It could be something like this that kind of just came my way through a former client that he was like, hey, laws weird. He might know a lot of stuff though. For digital. I think he could kind of any broker does together. And you came to stand up open mic, because I'm like, Hey, man, if I'm helping out, you're coming on my time. You're gonna have to sit through this garbage. Yeah. So she sat through

4:22

fileopen like the best open mics I've been to in a really long time to get you up to it. Yeah,

Law Smith

4:26

you gotta get right up in that robot dick.

4:28

All right. Yeah. Okay, that's better. Yeah.

Law Smith

4:32

And so, I guess I want to I want to let you explain what you want to explain about the app. Because it is there is stuff that is like, you don't want out in the public, obviously, but I'll let you explain it. So okay, What's the idea? And I guess good the status where you're at?

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Speaker 2

4:50

Okay, so I'm developing an app called giggity. I already have the name trademarked. It's a local music finder and booking app that brings artists venues, and I call The music supporters because my app is all about supporting local music together to facilitate and build their own local music scene. So I came up with the idea for giggity after dating a musician for three years and going to hundreds of his gigs, and I saw firsthand a lot of the problems that artists venues and people looking for live music having their computed community. So I was kind of shocked that I feel like the music industry is very underdeveloped, I guess you can say, as far as for the local artists. So me being an entrepreneur, pretty much my whole life, I saw this, like a light bulb went off, and I just saw this window of opportunity. And I decided that I wanted to take this on. So I came up with the idea in November of 2017. didn't do anything about it. But I immediately knew I wanted to call it giggity. And I immediately knew what my logo wise and after his gig one day, when I had this idea, I went home and grabbed some computer paper and was sitting at the table and I started drawing drawing frames and doing a subscription model and everything like this. I was like, hey, like, what do you think about this? And he's like, dude, I think that's like a really good idea.

Law Smith

6:09

He can't do it. Probably not. But I call it in my head that Miguel.

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Speaker 2

6:17

So basically, that was pretty much it after that, like I reached out to a couple developer friends that I had and said, like, you know, hey, I have this idea. But then it pretty much went on the back burner. And probably a year or so had passed him and I had eventually broken up. And I decided like, you know, I really wanted to do this. And one of the first steps and it might sound crazy of getting my app started was I actually took my breast implants out, because I was very sick with them. And it's called breast implant illness. And I went to doctors for 13 years because I had extreme chronic fatigue and brain fog and a whole bunch of other health issues. And once I found out about breast implant illness, I was the only thing that made sense. And I knew that if I wanted to start a business, I had to at least try to take it out and see if my health improved. And sure enough, it did. So when I right before my surgery, I was going to take off two months off of work. And I bought a MacBook, I upgraded my phone. And I was like I'm going to take these, this time recovering to start working on this app. So I built one on PowerPoint and just started kind of starting the process of just laying my ideas out. And then I recovered, I've been feeling great. And the surgery worked. And I was bartending two jobs at the time quit one of them. And self taught myself the program's to build my own prototype after a company had put in me $30,000 to do it for me. And I'm like, Where the fuck am I gonna find $30,000 from? So I built my own prototype, I've done my own business plan, my pitch deck, my financial model, I've, I have four advisors, that and mentors that have helped me through this process. They've been great. Anytime I have a question. They immediately either call me back, or they'll answer me right away. So I'm very grateful for them. And everything I've done, I've done myself. And I feel like at this point, I've just hit a wall that I can't go any further without actually building a team at this point. Obviously, I need capital. And basically, that's where I'm at. But the people that I started showing musicians, my app, and a lot of them are like, dude, we need something like this, like we like I've literally thought out every single problem in the local music industry. And they've seen it and they're begging me to build this app. And everyone that I've shown to even my financial advisor, he is like, this is something like when this takes off, like it's gonna take off very quickly. So whoever I have on my team, like I need them to be prepared and be ready for this to take off and escalate into something huge because I really do feel in my entire being that this app is really going to take off.

Law Smith

9:12

Yeah, I mean, it's in you're not there. What was good about initially talking to you is a you wrote a business plan, which is so unusual for the fucking 1000 people that have hit me up about I have an idea and I'm like, my first question is like, does it exist? And if it if it does exist, why isn't it crushing? If it doesn't exist? Why does have you done any work on it? Have you done like cursory research like, right? I'm talking like sitting on the toilet, go in store. Some people don't even do that. And I'm like that, can't you do that?

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Speaker 2

9:50

I shared my idea with his name's Tom Shane. He's the founder of faded jeans. Yeah. And he asked me he runs a company now called the business strategy. Strategy Group. And he asked after I kind of pitched my idea, he asked if his buddy Adriano could join in on the call. And he was a successful music video producer and actually produced Rob Zombie's videos. So I had both of them on a zoom call and was, you know, sharing them my idea, like, there are now two people that I can reach out to for advice anytime I want. They're like, you can put me on your advisory board or whatever. But Tom had asked me He's like, how much money have you spent on this so far? And I'm like, maybe 1000 bucks, because I've done everything myself. And he was completely blown away. And the one thing he asked me to was, how, how long do I want to be invested in this. And since I was very young, like maybe 14, my goal has always been to retire when I'm 40. And I just turned 33. So I'm like, I told him that I was like, I want to retire when I'm 40. And so I'm gonna be completely invested in this for seven years, and then I'm completely okay with selling it, you know, making a profit and whatever. And he liked hearing that, because he said, a lot of founders, they don't want to walk away, and they complete they stay. They stay invested in it for a very long time. And I didn't realize that that was an important question. for investors. Oh, how long you want to be involved? So my seven year window, in his eyes was like a perfect question or answer.

11:26

What's the second thing that they want to know on the pitch deck lot

Law Smith

11:28

to say, you know, I've said it a lot on the podcast, but it was something my professor beat my head, when you're doing a pitch. The second slide they want to see is the exit plan. You know, here's scenario 123, here's the most likely, here's what happens, you know, you can even have it built out in like, hey, if it totally eats it, we can still sell off this data, you know that it shows you're thinking about this investment in a real, pragmatic, realistic way,

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Speaker 2

11:58

which I remember when I spoke to you, you mentioned about the exit plan on the second slide. And when I redid my pitch deck. I totally forgot to add that. So I'm definitely going to do that later today. It's okay. Okay, yes, I my new pictures is beautiful. I'm so happy.

Law Smith

12:14

But what's fun about you is like you have this, your look doesn't scream like very pragmatic. And I kind of glom onto that a bit like, I get kind of walking in both the professional in the stand up world. And I kind of got that you're very practical about everything you're doing and what you've been great about, you know, the whole process thus far, we haven't really done a lot necessarily, but I'm trying to keep in touch as much as possible is like, you're a good sponge, like, that's anybody listening that's trying to do something like this, or they're trying to get seed funding or, or start their own business. And, you know, you have the idea, we're talking about restaurant scenario a lot, a lot of people open a restaurant, because really good at making it, some kind of dish pizza, whatever, they don't know shit about the rest of running a business, which, really, any business guy could run a bad tasting pizza company a lot, with a lot more success than someone that's just got a really good and just doesn't know, everything else. Like you gotta pay taxes. And don't Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 2

13:23

what with my app, like, it's really important to me, like, I want to be as much hands on as possible, like, one of my biggest fears is, like, I even want to teach myself the whole financial part of it, because one of my biggest fears is like, we're gonna go over some pro forma. Yeah,

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Speaker 2

13:40

like, like hiring somebody, which I kind of have a CFO picked out already. And I trust him a lot. But, you know, what, if it would you hear all these horror stories of companies that people inside the company that are in charge of their financials are like stealing money, and this and that, and, you know, like, I don't want to be like, sideswiped with that, like, I want to be hands on with every aspect of my business as possible. And I want to know what the fuck is going on at all times? Yeah,

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you're gonna do that anyways.

Law Smith

14:12

Yeah. And trust is, as the movie confidence says, I don't know why I know this quote. But trust should be a four letter word. Because, look, it can go a lot of ways. Like he trusts a lot of people because he knew him. Nostalgia plays a weird thing in our head. Sometimes you're like, wait, this person might not have been as good as I thought. What's that? What's that? No. No comment. I'm clean. I'm Fred. I'm out. Whatever. And you've been very good about giving saying thank you to me, which I was talking about this morning with someone it's like that basic recognition of you know, you'll find like people are will make time to help you with this stuff you have for advisors. helping you with this, you find the busiest people will figure out how to get back to you pretty quickly. A lot of the time, a lot of people don't have an avenue

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Speaker 3

15:09

to help people that presents itself to them, you know? Yeah, like any sort of like pro bono stuff, you might have to go out and look for it. But a lot of these successful people are doing their thing. And if it's presented to them, they get that opportunity. But they don't have time to manifest it themselves.

Law Smith

15:29

But it shows it shows gumption, that you went out to seek these people out where a lot of people would be like, I don't want to bother them. And I think that's you need enough ego to get this shit done. So that showed me like a lot of stuff, I'm trying to give a little bit back of like, what I've kind of seen, you know, in last couple months or whatever. And then autodidactic, the part where you're just teaching yourself, we're part of this generation where YouTube can teach you a lot of stuff programming wise, or, or there's a lot of information out there that people were willing to give this advice out there for free, once they get to that high level. So there's stories out there on how like Airbnb is going to be an interesting case study for you. Because it's, that's a marketplace that came together and seemed almost impossible to really make happen, right? But the idea is great. So where where do Where do other ones fail? And that thing, you know, and you're going to be looking at strategies by watching this case studies of other industries doing, how do I create a marketplace for this thing, become a disrupter, or basically to take out booking agents that seem to be pretty shitting to Ferris. The infamous thing about a booking agent is they're not that great at it. They're the gatekeepers,

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Speaker 2

16:43

right? Yep. My goal is to be the main booking agent for the music industry. So

Law Smith

16:48

yeah, in any book, send this to a booking agent. Just imagine,

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to reach out to this booking agent. I was like, No, keep them

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out of it.

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I'm trying to take them out of business.

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And ask them for advice.

Law Smith

17:01

Yeah, I just in my head. I just imagined the old school like phone with you on the handle. And they're just like they're eating a sub like what the fuck yeah, cigarettes everywhere.

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Speaker 2

17:16

Yeah, I've heard I've heard a lot of horror stories already. About booking agents in the music industry and just hearing it from my accent seen him getting double booked all the time and their exes Scott Stapp, a

Law Smith

17:29

creed, right. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know,

Law Smith

17:39

maybe I was trying to think of the country guy. Goddamnit there's some country singer that has long hair that a lot of people okay, like you're a retarded version of Joe something, I think I'll look it up in a minute. It's not that important. But speaking of kind of a little bit of creepy stuff you were telling me when we first met that, you know that another thing to watch out for and you know, you're attractive female, you're young, and you got a good personality. So I think a lot of guys that are wanting to be single investors. might try to Weinstein Yeah, and you told me a story that like this already happening along the way. Yep. And I might I, this is where I forget, I have to remind myself like, we never worry about being in a parking lot by ourselves. Yes, guys, like so weird. It's never really floated through my head until about, I don't know, 510 years ago, when some some woman in my life told me like, like, yell at me. Like, you don't have to worry. You don't have to put your keys in your fist when you're walking solo at night in a parking lot. And I was like, I guess I don't I never think about that. I

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Speaker 2

18:56

just bought my purse over there. I just bought it's a concealed purse. So you pack a knot right now actually.

19:06

Good to know what

Law Smith

19:07

I was hoping you would put on the table.

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Speaker 2

19:12

But I just I just got it because I want to start carrying with me. And you know, it's just you just never know. And it's kind of a scary world out there for females sometimes.

Law Smith

19:21

So I don't even think I forget about this stuff in the professional world too. And, you know, this is kind of outside most corporate professional kind of endeavors. But it's still that thing where you can tell the story, you know, however you want on here, but let's hear about it because I didn't I didn't want to tell it to Eric. I wanted to just kind of leave it up here.

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Speaker 2

19:43

So I've been bartending for 15 years and I love bartending and great money. I'm a very social person. And I love meeting new people and I had just moved from Fort Lauderdale. I was born raised in Fort Lauderdale. just moved up here to Tampa almost two months ago, because the startup and entrepreneurial scene up here seems to be a lot better. So something told me that in order to launch my app and be successful, I had to move up here. So that's why I'm here. So I had gotten a job at a bar, and started talking to some of my customers about my app, and this and that. And they're like, oh, man, there's this guy, like, you have to meet him. He's from LA. And he's a music video producer, and that he has more money than God, he would totally be invested in this app. So finally, one day while I'm working, he comes in, and I was so excited to meet him because I heard pretty good things about him. And so I'm serving them drinks and hands up, I ended up getting too busy. And I was like, super bummed because he's, I finally have this opportunity to meet him. And I get too busy and can't even go through the rest of my app. He leaves. And I was like, Fuck, so I get off work. I'm like talking to my boss. All of a sudden, he walks back in. So I sit at the bar next to him. I was like, Yes, this is like my opportunity to really pitch to him. So he comes back in him and I are sitting at the bar. And I'm talking to him more about my app and kind of showing him my MVP that I made and all this other stuff. Minimum Viable. Yeah. And for those Yeah. And so. So he's getting like, really excited at this idea. He's getting really excited about this idea. And he sees like, you know, all of this potential in it. So he asked me, he's like, if I give you 200,000, because I told him, this company that I've been talking to, for development, it's probably going to be about 300,000 to get this long. Like, all done with everything that I want. He's like, if I give you 200,000, can you ask them if I can do it for this much. And so I reached out to them, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, Oh, my assistant is going to contact you. He's like, I don't want to talk more about this, because I'm already kind of getting a little tipsy. So him I basically leave almost at the same time. And he's like, oh, like, Where do you live? And like, I'm like, an hour away. And he's like, oh, like, you can stay at my place tonight. I live right down the street, blah, blah, blah, like I have a spare room. Like, why don't you just you can just follow me home. I was like, No, like, I'm okay, like, I'm completely sober. I only have one shot with him. I was like, I'm okay to drive and, and then he's even texted me after I left, like, are you sure you don't want to come over this and that blah, blah. I was like, No, I'm good. So that was the end of that. And then the about two days goes by his assistant texts me. She's like, Hi, my name is Ashley. Like, I just wanna introduce myself as like, Oh shit, like he's, this is kind of legit, and started kind of getting excited about it. So he comes in as the second time I ever meet him. He comes back into the bar. I'm working. And throughout. He was there for me before hours. He had nine shots of vodka, a couple beers. He was like buying everyone a drink and he would tip like 100 bucks every time he was in. When he left this day. I was like, dude, do you want me to get you a cab? Like, are you like, all get you a cab? Like, you don't have to drive this night? It's like, Oh, no, I'm fine. I'm fine. And so he leaves and I text him. I was like, let me know when you made it back. Okay, like I just wanted to make sure that he

Law Smith

23:11

no GS on that. Yeah, no emoji. No eggplant. No, no, no, Winky is nothing.

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Speaker 2

23:15

And all he wrote back was come see me. And I was just like, I made something up. I was like, Oh, I have a date. You know, and I this, this was that. This was a 330. I was working and I didn't get off till eight o'clock. And between that window when he left, and when I got off, he pulled out of the deal. So his assistant texted me and she's like, You're, you're an idiot. If you don't go over there, blah, blah, blah, this and that. Like she's trying to get me to go.

Law Smith

23:44

Yeah, she's

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Speaker 2

23:45

texting me like to go this place. She's like, he's gonna set up this meeting and blah, blah, blah. I was like, he just fucking had nine shots of vodka like, and I'm not going over there. I was like, he tried getting me to go back to his place the other night before this and that. Yeah, basically, he pulled out of the deal. And I told her this whole situation, and I'm texting him I was like, and for some for a person to set up an imaginary meeting while I'm at work and want me to come over at like 10pm at night to their hotel room, like, I'm not fucking stupid. I've been bartending a long time. Like I can see through the lines, very obvious. And so I'm kind of like having a texting battle with the both of them. I was like, my business will not be run like a fucking circus. I've been working way too hard on this. And for you to want to even set up some type of meeting after just coming into my bar and drinking that much. That's a fucking huge slap in the face to me. So I was like, really upset about that. But and then he's texting me like, I have so many other girlfriends. Like, there's other girls that look better than you and it's not a blah, blah, blah, and like,

Law Smith

24:46

just really like that. And he's like,

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Speaker 2

24:51

yeah, and he's like, maybe like in his 50s you know me and he's like saying, I use all these 20 year old girlfriends and blah blah, blah and like, what And so whatever it's, it was what it is like to hear that. Yeah, yeah, exactly like it. It is what it is. I'm glad I had that experience. Russ told me, after we put us together, you put us together. And you know, he had mentioned, he's like, you have to be careful who you put your energy into. And he was very adamant about that. And he's like, you're gonna encounter a lot of obstacles. And it's not and like, when I was going through that I was, that kind of light went back off showing, you know, be careful who you pour your energy into. And so I'm glad that happened. I know it's gonna happen again. But he still comes into my job and I still wait on Him. Really? Yeah.

25:38

Did you ever meet Ashley quota? Oh, apparently. That's a second phone number he's doing Yeah.

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Speaker 2

25:43

Who knows? Apparently, she's I think she might be in LA. Who knows? He's probably either one of her one of the

Law Smith

25:49

young girls that he is. It's always gross when you find out like there is a female if she

25:59

reminded me of that.

26:04

But that was Yeah, that was that happened.

Law Smith

26:08

He's like, come over I got a bunch of psychosis. So but watch I mix.

26:18

Not done yet. Yeah.

Law Smith

26:21

I can't think of any more plans.

26:24

But yeah, so that was

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Speaker 2

26:27

really hot. One thing and I know it's gonna happen again, but it's, you know, I think and I'm being in starting an app in the music and entertainment industry. And it's something that I myself and learning through the way like I there is a lot that I still don't know about music and I'm learning myself I didn't gain an appreciation for music till after I started Dini musician. So I I'm walking into a male dominated industry.

Law Smith

26:53

So I figured it out. Yeah. That's the country guys

26:57

right on the head.

Law Smith

26:59

Joe Nichols your favorite.

27:00

He's my favorite pop country, you know?

Law Smith

27:04

But I mean, you're Yeah. Good on you for keeping boundaries. That's tough.

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Speaker 3

27:10

on you for the name, surprise, you were able to get in you were able to trademark it.

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Speaker 2

27:14

Yeah, yeah. So when one of my advisors Sean was one of my advisors, Sean he, he was actually one of my customers at another bar was working at and actually and my other advisor Wesley was another customer at another bar was working out. So every all these people I've been meeting have all happened happened organically. I haven't needed to go really search for anyone. Everyone came into my life right at the right moment.

Law Smith

27:40

Well, for yes or no, right. Yeah. You know, if we wanted to make it a business definition, LinkedIn, nerdy, it's relationship marketing. And you're good at that. And as you go through this, you'll get better at Yeah. And the guys I see that are very successful that I look up to as mentors for me. They're awesome at it. And so this is a valuable skill. People don't realize it's it is really valuable. You know, it's where people will try to be too, too much of a socialite, and not kind of a calculated thing, right. We want to keep we keep these episodes about 33 minutes. Where can people go if they're interested to check it out? Because I told you, I've got a hit list of guys. I'm gonna let roast battle you're okay. Yeah, I love that. So I'm gonna send them in this episode. Okay, so I got like, 10 guys that they're all in different expertise, but they're all entrepreneurs. And they're all good in different ways to give advice, like I got you with my IT business consultant, because he knew the programming side a little bit better. He knew that backyard, especially with Apple. I didn't even think about the trickiness.

28:50

I would like to talk to him again, by the way, oh, yeah,

Law Smith

28:51

we can get down. He's supposed to be here next week. So I'll remind them that, you know, a bunch of other people in different parts of this process you need, if not anything, it's just a good introduction to go. resource. Yeah.

29:08

Yeah, thank you.

Law Smith

29:09

Yeah. Yeah. And I think the best thing I can do to help you, it's just do that. I had a lot of ways but be a resource to other resources. And then, you know, just kind of audit what I can see. But obviously, you're way further along than most people. Yeah.

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Speaker 3

29:29

That was always just an idea. It's never nobody ever has a business plan and a pitch deck. Yeah, nobody.

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Speaker 2

29:37

I've done all of it. I went over to the Tampa Bay wave, and was they have a female founders program over there. And I showed the director like all my stuff, and he's like, what do you need from us? Because I just literally had everything already. And I realized I'm not sure if I even need them right now. But like, I

Law Smith

29:53

would want to introduce you to a funder. Exactly what they're gonna be really great at what incubators For their every wasn't sure every major city has something like this. So if you're in and around, you know, some city in the United States, I found that there's an incubator like like this everywhere because, you know, they might, they might the people that are on the board are involved with these incubators, they they might put their own investment on a small time. So they get points on that. And

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Speaker 2

30:23

then they the Tampa Bay wave they offer mentors to help you with your business plan and your pitch deck and your financial like pretty much everything that I already had. They offer help with their and they have a membership program. And I was really, really impressed. Like cool. I'll probably use certain aspects of You look so smart.

Law Smith

30:41

told you to go there. Yeah. Yes. Some genius with great hair. Yeah, thank you.

30:48

Who was it?

Law Smith

30:51

So I'm pretty good.

Law Smith

30:57

My balls are fine. All right, guys.

31:00

I was worried about that. I know

Law Smith

31:01

everybody's been asking.

31:02

You don't have to keep telling us. They're fine.

Law Smith

31:05

They're great. Sorry. They're great.

31:08

or describe them at all, like

Law Smith

31:11

10 times a day.

31:13

At least I don't have to worry about having kids anyway.

Law Smith

31:16

I'm not in the clear last year

31:17

and wait till last year, the 1%.

Law Smith

31:19

No, you are really great. About that, like a hypochondriac. We have to wait 12 weeks and then send the sample and Eric has done this, but didn't do the sample part. Which is mind blowing. To me.

31:35

I had nine days to flow

Law Smith

31:36

out. And you dropped out of there after you got the surgery done. Okay. Yeah,

31:41

I've done a lot of

Law Smith

31:44

Antonio Cromartie yourself, bro.

31:48

I mean, no. It's funny, because

Law Smith

31:51

you say no doesn't mean it doesn't know happens? Fine. All right, we try to ask my own microscope, we try to ask our guests every time. What advice would you give your 13 year old self? I have, you know, be careful who you put your energy into? I would assume it might be something like that. So we try to ask everybody what and it's purposely set up to be 13 years old to set up for an immature joke. But if you if you want to take Well, I have

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Speaker 2

32:19

I have it tattooed on my wrist. I have tattooed don't give up. Yeah. So that is something that I would tell my 13 year old self don't give up. There's something if you have a goal or there's something you want to do in your life. Just don't give up just keep working for it. It's very true. Like you can do anything you put your your mind to. So

Law Smith

32:39

yeah, like I've been telling you that you're going to be your own obstacle. The idea is great. It's it's been tried a few times, right? There's definitely a notable people been trying to do it. You know, that's that's that probably that's what I was telling you. The best advice I could give you is like really hone yourself the breast implant removal is like a good indication that you're on your way. You said you're not drinking as much so you have a better mind. Yeah,

33:07

I have become sober and I don't know but

Law Smith

33:09

the celibacy thing that I feel like that would unhinge a guy's mind, but

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Speaker 2

33:14

well basically no dating. Because like I can't, like I don't want to date and like I tried drinking again. Just I just like drinking and dating. Like it's just not it's too much distraction, because I can't do either.

33:30

Nice like girls can do that.

33:33

It's not gonna do it. Yeah. You know what? Think about it.

33:39

Good for you.

Law Smith

33:40

Every guy listening right now wasn't listening. trucker on the video sushi. Well, thanks for coming on. giggity.com is a gig@live.com.

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Speaker 2

33:53

Don't get a gig at Comic because rejected support and say, yeah, so giggity live calm. I also have the Facebook page giggity gi GGIDY. And then I also created the Facebook group support local music. Yeah. So if you're a musician, I wanted to chat. Yeah, I've been friend requesting every single person holding a musical instrument and their profile picture. So if you're a musician, join giggity and then join my facebook group support local music and you can post your live stream or videos and everything like that. So good idea.

34:23

We're gonna shit together.

34:24

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks

Law Smith

34:26

for coming on. All right. Thank you.

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